Stick Welding Sheet Metal with 6013 rods! Beginner Welding Series! This is the thinnest sheet metal I have ever welded using this process. I'm welding very thin 16 gauge metal to even thinner 20 gauge metal It's not easy to do but it can be done with a little practice. Learn some tips and tricks as I get this repair work done!
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Good honest real world repair job, on stuff like that, backing the joint with some copper strip or heavier steel can help avoid burning through-if of course you can get to the underside of the job. Stop n start helps (its how I weld vertical up with 6013 if I have to). Did I hear you say "its just a wheelbarrow" what a thing to say about the thing you take your cash to the bank in each week.
Hey sir do you want to learn more about on how to stickweld a thin metal. If you want to Watch my video on how i stickweld the 1.2mm flatsheet metal and Using the gasless mig and stickweld. Heres the title sir of my vid. so you can easyly find it on youtube. Powerhouse gasless migweld/powerhouse trditional stickweld comparison(sbm)welders of the north philippines.
@Brandon R good question. There are actually 2 things going on. Arc Force prevents the electrode from sticking during welding, while Hot Start temporary increase the output current during the start of a weld. In other words, Arc Force compensates by increasing or decreasing current based on how close or how far you hold the electrode off the work piece while hot start is just temporary to keep the rod from sticking until the rod is lit. Straight polarity as you pointed out is better suited for thin metals.
I have a Lincoln AC box and I just welded super thin gauge metal just fine. Btw, I used spare rods in case I blew a hole through sheet metal and I use those spare rods I have lying around to do my poor man's TIG welding on sheet, fusing every piece of bare rod onto sheet.
I weld it quite often.. I just use the same rod for everything.. 6011 1/8".. Same technique you used with the touch and go.. But, i put more angle on the rod, aim it at the thicker base metal, turn the amps down a little,,, get my puddle on the new base metal and whip it into the thinner rusty wheel barrel metal.. You are basically only pulling/pushing the puddle that you already have going from the thicker metal down to just touch the thinner metal..Of course, it is faster than it sounds.. Each tack probably 1.5 seconds at the absolute most.. But, you can still stack the beads when you control your puddle from the thicker base metal..
But, best to gas weld it with a coat hanger or something.. Ha.. And, if you use yours to mix a bag of quickcrete from time to time,, you are going to wish you put those patches on the bottom side.. Ha..Ha.. I have one just about like yours..
I had to beef up the cement mixer the other day.. build some new bushings, rebuild the old motor mounts that were rusted just about away.. Had to beef up a creek dam behind my place a bit and put a drain filter in it, since I was working on the creek with the backhoe the other day..
Nice Job on the Skillet.. I figured 7018 would work.. I'm sure 6011 would to.. A 400 degree preheat would just about guarantee a good weld without cracks, etc..
A guy bet me one time that I could not weld Copper to mild steel over some beers.. For the Challenge, (Another Case of Beer), I welded a flattened out piece of 1/2" copper pipe to a 1" thick solid stock mild steel bar.. If you can't tear it away without copper being left in the weld.. I win.. Ha.. I enjoyed his beer.. Ha..Ha.. I took $20 from the same guy years ago when he said I could not weld some 20ga sheet metal with the penetrating 6011 1/8".. Said I needed to use 3/32 or at least 6013..
Half way through the bet, he said, it had to hold water.. Ha.. Ok,, I will make a second pass after I grind the first.. Well, I found a few little pin holes and sealed them up too.. He yells "Oh Shit" when I tell him,, I'll bet you.. Ha.. I keep telling him.. I never went to school to learn I could not do all of these things.. Ha..Ha. Cheers.. Enjoy the videos.. I have probably 20 of them I would like to upload but I just go from project to project.. Might have some short ones I don't have to edit and put together and can just upload from my phone.. Ha.. Later..
I have been doing this for years, while using a Mig does a cleaner weld, it has a tendency to push through thin metal. That coupled with the fact the the wire has a habit of kinking inside the cable makes it more trouble than its worth. I have been repairing a beat up old Model A Ford fender using my trusty old stick welder. I added two patch panels and welded them in and ground them smooth inside and out, it’s about 80 percent done and by the time it’s finished you won’t be able to tell it was stick welded.
Thanks! Funny you mentioned the linseed oil, that's exactly what I used on the handles. I was going to use poly but I had some left over from a project. I'm tossing the idea of building a splitter but I don't have a good understanding of hydraulics so I'm not really sure.
Nice video brother!! I find the tac method works very good! I used to stick weld alot, but I find it is bulky. I just use a flux core welder. If you have time check out this video were I tried welding razors blades https://youtu.be/ecvohL7d1NU Thanks I subbed
I purchased New 200 amp stick welding machine recently, i have a Knob called arc force I would be thankfull of you make a video on arc force control and types of welding rods to use on metals and the current (amps) used for welding. your videos are useful to beginners like welding cast iron sheet metal welding etc.
Be sure to click the notifications button, I will be doing just that. I have some "how to" videos on welding thin metal in my "beginner Welding" playlist if you haven't seen them yet. Thanks for watching and congratulations on your new welder!
i welded some 1/8'' plats onto the sheet metal on my car with a 110 volt buz box with 6011 at 100amps. if you slowly scratch on one spot enough it slowly builds up enough material to were a bead can be welded over it... scratching, long arcing to spray metal on the thin sheet before welding. was not easy.
Gordon Reiher Thanks buddy! Ansen spiked the price to over $1200 after my review so I will no longer promote them. I’m using the 160sti Blue Demon (TIG and Stick combo) and I’m using it in this video on 120 volts. I’m very impressed so far. The next 2 episodes we are going to see just how far I can push this welder. Take care brother!
It's like deja-vu...similar problem with a similar wheel barrow. It was my parents' wheel barrow (I would have thrown it away ). Bolts were just like yours. I liked your solution, I'll tuck it away for later ... mine was an angle grinder. Got those off and went to change the wheel and those bolts were spinning in the wood and couldn't get to any of them. After investing most of an afternoon on it I convinced my mom it would make a great planter. They don't need to be running around with a wheelbarrow anyway !
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D Rickard great minds think alike!!! :) i can totally relate to blowing an entire day feeling like your spinning your wheels. That's a typical day in the shop for me lol I like your solution though! That wheelbarrow won't be giving anyone problems anymore! It seems like the only time my phone rings is whenever the camera is rolling. It's usually a telemarketer and I like to include them in my video! Lol
I would just like to suggest to you, next time you have a job like that, try 6011 using the same technique. May be just my preference but I dislike 6013 it is prone to porosity, 6011 on the other hand has much less flux, and less prone to porosity. I did successfully use 6011 on thin metal with a buzz box. Not telling you what to do, this is just a suggestion.
Jaques Daniels I got a lot of great viewer comments and suggestions on this video which prompted me to pick up some small diameter 6013 and 6011 rods and make passes using dcen and dcep and then doing a side by side comparison. The arc force must have a lot to do with it because I've never had good luck with 6013 either. Wait until you see the comparison video.
By coincidence, Uncle (LOL) Bob Moffatt has just done a video on rusty steel using 6011 over on weld.com, second coincidence, is I just did a job on thin wall steel tube to rusty old tube. I used 6013s and cleaned up the steel best I could, inverter welder EN. 2.5 mm rods at 40 amps, plus a try with 1.6mm 6013s. Not pretty, it seems to me the problem with 6013 on inverters at low amps is arc blow- it looks like the arc does not have enough juice to push the slag back, I don't have arc force settings on my old inverter, nor do I have a buzz box I could have switched to,so I had to do hotter passes and start n stop to avoid blowing holes, I still ended up with what we limeys call "Farmers welds" or Pigeon poop welding.
Richard Valcourt interesting Richard! I might just give that rod a try... I've never had great luck with 6011 rods running real low amperage on a buzz box so maybe I'll give it a try on this dc unit. It might make for an interesting video! Thanks buddy
Ray B. I was running electrode positive but you are correct, electrode negative generally results in less penetration (good for thin metal). I don't seem to get as good results though... It's probably because I have not run it much. I am going to be doing a bunch of thin metal and electrode comparisons in a future episode and we will burn some rods on electrode negative and check it out. Thanks for the suggestion...be sure to look for it in an upcoming episode!
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